Spektrum Dx8

[puzarro]

Originalmente inviato da vs0587

Hai fatto bene....

Mi sembra di aver visto leggero cambiamento nel menù, comunque l'ho fatto perchè ci mette poco e non ti cancella i settaggi, ma ora è meglio se imparo a fare il backup prima di farlo

[Photomax]

Buongiorno a tutti!!!!
Per prima cosa non mi linciate per quello che sto chiedendo ma ... ci sono oltre le 300 pagine di messaggio e dopo le prime 20 mi sono perso. Magari se n'è gia parlato ampiamente ma, aimè, non ho trovato quello che mi interessa così mi accingo a fare la domanda; siate clementi o indicatemi, per favore, a che pagina la trovo. Grazie anticipatamente.

Radio: ovviamente Dx8 (altrimenti non la chiedevo in questa discussione )
Modello: F3k

Areo sistemato di comandi.
Fase termica: sistemata abbinando la levetta dei flap a 3 posizioni per due tipo di termica (magari le trovassi!!!!)
Ora devo settare le fasi di: lancio, volo normale, velocità.
Vorrei settare la fase di lancio su la levetta posteriore a sx in modo che, lanciando il modello con la mano dx, posso poi togliere la fase di lancio quando necessita. (spero d'essere stato chiaro).
Allo stesso modo, la fase di volo, magari questa volta a dx in una levetta a 3 posizioni in modo da inserire in 1 o in 2 la fase di velocità.

So che sono un po contorto ma potete aiutarmi?

Grazie 1000 a tutti e ... pazienza (con me ce ne vuole parecchia)

[AEROX_15]

Originalmente inviato da Photomax

Buongiorno a tutti!!!!
Per prima cosa non mi linciate per quello che sto chiedendo ma ... ci sono oltre le 300 pagine di messaggio e dopo le prime 20 mi sono perso. Magari se n'è gia parlato ampiamente ma, aimè, non ho trovato quello che mi interessa così mi accingo a fare la domanda; siate clementi o indicatemi, per favore, a che pagina la trovo. Grazie anticipatamente.

Radio: ovviamente Dx8 (altrimenti non la chiedevo in questa discussione )
Modello: F3k

Areo sistemato di comandi.
Fase termica: sistemata abbinando la levetta dei flap a 3 posizioni per due tipo di termica (magari le trovassi!!!!)
Ora devo settare le fasi di: lancio, volo normale, velocità.
Vorrei settare la fase di lancio su la levetta posteriore a sx in modo che, lanciando il modello con la mano dx, posso poi togliere la fase di lancio quando necessita. (spero d'essere stato chiaro).
Allo stesso modo, la fase di volo, magari questa volta a dx in una levetta a 3 posizioni in modo da inserire in 1 o in 2 la fase di velocità.

So che sono un po contorto ma potete aiutarmi?

Grazie 1000 a tutti e ... pazienza (con me ce ne vuole parecchia)

Con la dX8 non puoi fare fasi di volo! !... airware è un Software molto limitato... infatti io lo uso solo per gli schiumini o piccoli aerei da pochi soldi... se devi usarla per alianti non ci vieni più a capo
Le tre fasi divolo che hai citato ovvero: lancio,volo normale, velocità devi impostarle tramite il menu dual rate/expo .... Li potrai fare le cuve di comando necessarie assegnado uno switch a 3 posizioni sempre che ci si riesca... Non vorrei mai che vedesse solo due posizioni... in quel caso li ne saresti fregato
Per inserire due tipi di velicità in teoria dovresti fare un mix tra gas>gas poi gli assegli uno switch da cui gli imposti i due valori in % differenti...

[dtruffo]

Credo che la DX8 sia la meno indicata in assoluto in quella fascia per l'uso con alianti !!

[AEROX_15]

Originalmente inviato da dtruffo

Credo che la DX8 sia la meno indicata in assoluto in quella fascia per l'uso con alianti !!

lo penso vivamente anche io Per certi aspetti è decisamente una radio mal riuscita a quel prezzo poi....

[Photomax]

porcaccia puzzona!!!!!!
non ditemi così!!!!! l'ho presa apposta questa radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
altrimenti prendevo hitech!!!! nooooooo non ditemi così!!!!!

[AEROX_15]

Originalmente inviato da Photomax

porcaccia puzzona!!!!!!
non ditemi così!!!!! l'ho presa apposta questa radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
altrimenti prendevo hitech!!!! nooooooo non ditemi così!!!!!

eheheheh Fratello questa è l'amara verità... Se devi fare cose basilari non dovresti avere problemi... ma se vuoi fare cose più complesse si ha grosse difficoltà per via del sw da min....oni che non lo permette

Ci rimasi male anche io a suo tempo.. ma x fortuna non viaggio solo di spektrum

[egicar]

Originalmente inviato da Photomax

porcaccia puzzona!!!!!!
non ditemi così!!!!! l'ho presa apposta questa radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
altrimenti prendevo hitech!!!! nooooooo non ditemi così!!!!!

Hai registrato la radio su Spektrum Community?
Se sì, puoi scaricare il preset di un aliante, copiarlo sualla SD, importarlo e, seguendo le istruzioni che troverai, potrai personalizzarlo per il tuo aliante.

Ti riporto qui, per comodità, sia le istruzioni che il file.

DX-8 Sailplane Setup


The DX8 is designed to support airplanes and helicopters with sophisticated programming functions and features. Several pilots have requested programming information for full functioning sailplanes and while the DX8 does not have sailplane specific programming, by utilizing the eight available programmable mixes in Airplane mode, the DX8 can be programmed to accommodate most sailplane functions. A sailplane base-line program is now available that can be transferred to your DX8’s model memory using an SD card that provides base programming for a 6-channel sailplane with 4-servo wing offering the following functions:

•Three flight modes-(position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
•Adjustable camber- in cruise mode via the rotary knob
•Independent trims in each flight mode- ideal for optimizing elevator trim settings per flight mode
•Independent differential- adjustment in each flight mode
•Crow/ Butterfly mix- Flaps down and ailerons up on the throttle stick programmed to cruise and reflex flight modes
•Elevator compensation- (linear only) mixed to Crow/ Butterfly in cruise and reflex modes
•Aileron to flaps- in all flight modes provide full span ailerons
•Elevator to flaps- in cruise and reflex modes
•Aileron to rudder- assigned to turn on/ off with the gear switch
•Throttle stick warning- when turning on the transmitter and the stick is not in the high position
Important- The provided setting on the SD card are the actual setup parameters (reversing directions, travel values, etc.) for a specific model. These setting are provided as a baseline setup only allowing you to build a setup to meet your specific model’s needs. The values and reverse settings for your model will differ and must be carefully adjusted and tested before flying.

Note: It’s recommended that this model program be stored as model #30 in your DX8 and then copied to the intended model that you wish to use. This will allow recopy to other models and have reference to the base model program if/ when needed even at the field.



Preparing Your DX8 transmitter

1.Download the model (6ch Glider) from your computer to an SD card
2.Insert the SD card into your DX8
3.In system setup mode, use the Select Model function to select the model number you wish to use for the model (we recommend Model #30)
4.While still in system setup mode enter the Transfer SD Card screen
5.Under Options roll the roller until Import Model appears
6.Highlight 6ch Glider, and then press the roller. The model will be transferred to the model memory that your DX8 is currently in. (Recommend to store in Model #30)
7.Transfer the 6ch Glider program to the desired model memory that you wish to use and enter that model memory.


Transmitter Functions

Before getting started it’s important to identify the switches and sticks that are used and how they function:

•Throttle Stick- Starts in the up position, Used to activate Crow/ Butterfly braking in Cruise and Reflex modes. Note warning if stick is in low position when transmitter is turned on.
•Elevator stick- Provides normal elevator operation that is mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes.
•Aileron stick- Provides normal roll operation mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes and mixed to rudder when the gear switch is activated
•Rudder stick- normal operation
•Flight Mode Switch- Selects the three flight modes (position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
•Gear Switch- Turns on/ off the aileron to rudder mixing (forward = On)
•Aux 3 Knob- Adjust Camber in Cruise mode only
•Trims- Separate trim setting are automatically stored for each flight mode
•Timer Button- A 5:00 minute up-timer is programmed to start when the Trainer button is pressed


Basic Setup Procedures



Preparing Your Sailplane

Step #1- Install the servos leads in the receiver

A 7-channel or greater receiver is needed. Plug the servo leads into the following ports in the receiver:

Receiver Port
Servo
Throttle Not used
Aileron Right Aileron
Elevator Elevator
Rudder Rudder
Gear Left Flap
Aux1 Left Aileron
Aux2 Right Flap
Aux3 Not used


Step #2- Bind the receiver

Step #3 Servo reversing- Adjust all channels servo reversing to the correct direction

Step #4- In flap system with the flight mode switch in the middle position (1) cruise adjust the mid flap value to neutralize the flaps.

Step #5- Adjust sub trim on all channels

Step #6- In flap system adjust all three preset flap settings (reflex, cruise and launch)

Step #7- Use the following mixes to adjust the remaining mix functions:

ELE > FLP- active in Cruise and Reflex mode adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.

AIL > RUD- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, Adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.

Mix 1 THR> RFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the flap travel amount and direction when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.

Mix 2 THR> LAL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the ailerons travel amount and direction (usually up) when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.

Mix 3 AIL> LFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the ailerons to flap mix for full trailing edge ailerons. Travel amount and direction is adjusted here.
Mix 4 KNB> RFL- active in Cruise mode only, adjusts the flap camber when the knob is rotated in cruises mode only. Note the offset of 90% so the value is adjusted in one direction normally to add camber for thermal mode.

Mix 5 THR> ELE- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, provides elevator compensation when crow is activated. Note 90% offset to match crow mix input.

Mix 6 AX3> LAL- Always On, This mix is used to adjust the ailerons up or down when the flight mode is switched from launch, cruise and reflex.

Note: this program does not employ dual rate, differential, or Expo settings as these are personal preferences and are adjusted per the airplane and pilots desires. Adjust these values per your preference.



Tips and Comments

•Sailplane pilots have personal preferences as to functionality, switch locations, etc. This program provides a baseline to get started but the DX8 allows the versatility to move switches and change functions as desired. Please feel free to experiment but understand that this is an airplane program that offers a high level of functionality and was not designed for sailplane specific functions.
•Note that in order to allow mix #6 above to operate it was necessary to program the Flight Mode switch to Aux 3 channel in the Switch Select screen. If moving the flight mode functions to another position it will be necessary to reassign this new switch to the Aux 3.
•The DX8 features backward mixing. If a master is mixed to the right (primary channel) like right aileron, the slave will operate both ailerons as an ailerons. If a master is mixed to a slave channel like the left aileron, the ailerons will operate up and down as flaperons. Understanding the backwards mix function will allow tremendous options when doing complex mixes.
•Electric Motor use- This program does not incorporate a powered sailplane. In order to add an electric motor one of the P-mixes will need to be reprogrammed to operate the motor function. Typical Mix #6 will be eliminated and the trainer timer button will be assigned to operate the motor in the Aux 3 channel. The timer can be programmed to Aux3 in the Switch select screen.

[Photomax]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

però, come sono riuscito a mettere, per quanto riguarda i flap e quindi leva a 3 posizioni:
0 = niente, tutto centrato
1 = -10% alettoni e conpensazione con cabra
2 = -30% alettoni e conpensazione con cabra maggiore

Com'è che non è possibile, fare altrettanto con una leva, ad esempio quella subito a lato sx (non ricordo quale) di quella del flap, sempre a 3 posizioni, mettendo ad esempio il neutro sull'1, lancio e quindi alettoni + cabra in su in posizione 0 e fase di velocità in posizione 2?
Tanto, si lancia in posizione 0, poi si mette in posizione neutro sull'uno per il volo normale e se devo accelerare si abbassa in posizione 2
Per la fase di termica invece c'è la paletta del flap!

[Photomax]

la radio mi è arrivata ieri, presa usata ed è perfetta!!!!! non saprei se il precedente proprietario l'aveva registrata.
Per prima cosa ti ringrazio un casino!!!! un pochettino mi hai rianimato, stavo svenendo!!!!!!!! e siccome sono rimasto qualche istante senza ossigeno al cervello ti chiedo aiuto per l'installazione mediante scheda sd.
ma come ho detto io, non è possibile?

Originalmente inviato da egicar

Hai registrato la radio su Spektrum Community?
Se sì, puoi scaricare il preset di un aliante, copiarlo sualla SD, importarlo e, seguendo le istruzioni che troverai, potrai personalizzarlo per il tuo aliante.

Ti riporto qui, per comodità, sia le istruzioni che il file.

DX-8 Sailplane Setup


The DX8 is designed to support airplanes and helicopters with sophisticated programming functions and features. Several pilots have requested programming information for full functioning sailplanes and while the DX8 does not have sailplane specific programming, by utilizing the eight available programmable mixes in Airplane mode, the DX8 can be programmed to accommodate most sailplane functions. A sailplane base-line program is now available that can be transferred to your DX8’s model memory using an SD card that provides base programming for a 6-channel sailplane with 4-servo wing offering the following functions:

•Three flight modes-(position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
•Adjustable camber- in cruise mode via the rotary knob
•Independent trims in each flight mode- ideal for optimizing elevator trim settings per flight mode
•Independent differential- adjustment in each flight mode
•Crow/ Butterfly mix- Flaps down and ailerons up on the throttle stick programmed to cruise and reflex flight modes
•Elevator compensation- (linear only) mixed to Crow/ Butterfly in cruise and reflex modes
•Aileron to flaps- in all flight modes provide full span ailerons
•Elevator to flaps- in cruise and reflex modes
•Aileron to rudder- assigned to turn on/ off with the gear switch
•Throttle stick warning- when turning on the transmitter and the stick is not in the high position
Important- The provided setting on the SD card are the actual setup parameters (reversing directions, travel values, etc.) for a specific model. These setting are provided as a baseline setup only allowing you to build a setup to meet your specific model’s needs. The values and reverse settings for your model will differ and must be carefully adjusted and tested before flying.

Note: It’s recommended that this model program be stored as model #30 in your DX8 and then copied to the intended model that you wish to use. This will allow recopy to other models and have reference to the base model program if/ when needed even at the field.



Preparing Your DX8 transmitter

1.Download the model (6ch Glider) from your computer to an SD card
2.Insert the SD card into your DX8
3.In system setup mode, use the Select Model function to select the model number you wish to use for the model (we recommend Model #30)
4.While still in system setup mode enter the Transfer SD Card screen
5.Under Options roll the roller until Import Model appears
6.Highlight 6ch Glider, and then press the roller. The model will be transferred to the model memory that your DX8 is currently in. (Recommend to store in Model #30)
7.Transfer the 6ch Glider program to the desired model memory that you wish to use and enter that model memory.


Transmitter Functions

Before getting started it’s important to identify the switches and sticks that are used and how they function:

•Throttle Stick- Starts in the up position, Used to activate Crow/ Butterfly braking in Cruise and Reflex modes. Note warning if stick is in low position when transmitter is turned on.
•Elevator stick- Provides normal elevator operation that is mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes.
•Aileron stick- Provides normal roll operation mixed to flaps in cruise and reflex modes and mixed to rudder when the gear switch is activated
•Rudder stick- normal operation
•Flight Mode Switch- Selects the three flight modes (position 0= Launch, 1= Cruise, 2=Reflex)
•Gear Switch- Turns on/ off the aileron to rudder mixing (forward = On)
•Aux 3 Knob- Adjust Camber in Cruise mode only
•Trims- Separate trim setting are automatically stored for each flight mode
•Timer Button- A 5:00 minute up-timer is programmed to start when the Trainer button is pressed


Basic Setup Procedures



Preparing Your Sailplane

Step #1- Install the servos leads in the receiver

A 7-channel or greater receiver is needed. Plug the servo leads into the following ports in the receiver:

Receiver Port
Servo
Throttle Not used
Aileron Right Aileron
Elevator Elevator
Rudder Rudder
Gear Left Flap
Aux1 Left Aileron
Aux2 Right Flap
Aux3 Not used


Step #2- Bind the receiver

Step #3 Servo reversing- Adjust all channels servo reversing to the correct direction

Step #4- In flap system with the flight mode switch in the middle position (1) cruise adjust the mid flap value to neutralize the flaps.

Step #5- Adjust sub trim on all channels

Step #6- In flap system adjust all three preset flap settings (reflex, cruise and launch)

Step #7- Use the following mixes to adjust the remaining mix functions:

ELE > FLP- active in Cruise and Reflex mode adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.

AIL > RUD- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, Adjust values and directions of Elevator to flap mix in this screen. Use negative values to change directions of mix.

Mix 1 THR> RFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the flap travel amount and direction when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.

Mix 2 THR> LAL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the ailerons travel amount and direction (usually up) when Crow/ butterfly is activated. Note the offset of 90% programs stick to be at neutral at near full up position.

Mix 3 AIL> LFL- active in Cruise and Reflex mode,

This mix is used to adjust the ailerons to flap mix for full trailing edge ailerons. Travel amount and direction is adjusted here.
Mix 4 KNB> RFL- active in Cruise mode only, adjusts the flap camber when the knob is rotated in cruises mode only. Note the offset of 90% so the value is adjusted in one direction normally to add camber for thermal mode.

Mix 5 THR> ELE- active in Cruise and Reflex mode, provides elevator compensation when crow is activated. Note 90% offset to match crow mix input.

Mix 6 AX3> LAL- Always On, This mix is used to adjust the ailerons up or down when the flight mode is switched from launch, cruise and reflex.

Note: this program does not employ dual rate, differential, or Expo settings as these are personal preferences and are adjusted per the airplane and pilots desires. Adjust these values per your preference.



Tips and Comments

•Sailplane pilots have personal preferences as to functionality, switch locations, etc. This program provides a baseline to get started but the DX8 allows the versatility to move switches and change functions as desired. Please feel free to experiment but understand that this is an airplane program that offers a high level of functionality and was not designed for sailplane specific functions.
•Note that in order to allow mix #6 above to operate it was necessary to program the Flight Mode switch to Aux 3 channel in the Switch Select screen. If moving the flight mode functions to another position it will be necessary to reassign this new switch to the Aux 3.
•The DX8 features backward mixing. If a master is mixed to the right (primary channel) like right aileron, the slave will operate both ailerons as an ailerons. If a master is mixed to a slave channel like the left aileron, the ailerons will operate up and down as flaperons. Understanding the backwards mix function will allow tremendous options when doing complex mixes.
•Electric Motor use- This program does not incorporate a powered sailplane. In order to add an electric motor one of the P-mixes will need to be reprogrammed to operate the motor function. Typical Mix #6 will be eliminated and the trainer timer button will be assigned to operate the motor in the Aux 3 channel. The timer can be programmed to Aux3 in the Switch select screen.