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Vecchio 19 dicembre 13, 03:15   #31 (permalink)  Top
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Depend on the conditions you are looking for.
If you are looking to fly into the wind, as you do in UK on low altitude slopes, all the Appennins in Italy fit the task.

On the Alps we do not depend on wind.
We fly in thermals.

We often fly with wind direction coming from behind our shoulders. At Margone the main wind is often coming from the "wrong" direction. The "slope" area in reality is a precipice just over the so called valle dei laghi.
From down there a powerful lift comes up.
At Margone you throw down a washing machine and after few seconds you see it going up like a missile.

To land in Margone your airplane comes tail toward the precipice, nose pointing the long large flat airstrip on the top; in the mid of the landing area you enconuter opposite wind, the main land wind, that slow your airplane down.
Margone lift depend on the microclimatic conditions of valle dei laghi creating warm air that goes up the Margone cliff.
No matter if on the top, where you launch, the mainland wind is coming from behind; you fly. The force you have to fight at Margone is the excessive lift.
The number of days per year that are favourable to good flight conditions is enormous. You do not depend on wind direction or its power.


If you go Alpe di Siusi you find one of the most beatiful places on this planet.
Breath taking. In touch with God. Unfortunately delta and parachutes populate the place, it is a tricky place to reach with and withous the models. It is worth an expedition at east once in a lifetime but would not point you there for all your week.
Maybe you could spend there one or two days.

Pordoi pass is where you find the famous euromeeting place. Launching and flying at 2500m put you in a strange situation. One year i remember strong wind,no wind , snow, sun, fog so dense that you could not see your feet, rain, thunders and lightings. And sun again.
All in one day. In July.
At that altitude may be tricky to find stable flight conditions.

Where we, with Ehstikatzi Dimitri Alberto Tarter Harri and many others, choose to put our base to fly the summer, is Folgaria at Willy's hotel. One hour from Verona airport and the town of Verona, Romeo and Juliet, the Arena. One hour to Margone. 30 minutes to Garda Lake.

The hotel is equipped with sauna, billiard, calciobalilla, hangars and a large lab for repairs. You get advise and sustain.

Ehstikatzi already told you the distance from other slopes.
However, we love to stay there, in fact Folgaria is at the base of His Majesty the Holy Monte Cornetto.
We drive with jeep from the hotel to the launching point, or walk to there.

Man, it cannot be described.

Large lift all over the valley, no preferred flight direction, wind not disturbing. There are days that is like to fly a jet.
I remember a year that every day was flyable, after a month of that I was exhausted.
You never have enough.
You may circle thermals that takes you at altitudes that you barely see your aircraft.
Not just god weather and sun is the reason for lift.
There are days with black sky, the airplane is sucked up. We dream for those days, you see your airplane so well, white on a dark backdrop. You are gifted with tremendous energies.
Flying there, in the silence, you hear the sound of your model, the most gentle whispers, the unwanted noises, the high speed whistle. You feel it.

Speed, high wing loading, aerobatics, merry go round, you can do all what you like.
At 200m the Rifugio offers beer, cakes, sandwiches, wines, steaks, cheese, food.

In Folgaria there is also a flying club with 80m airstrip, should you wanna fly engines.

Of course, you may prefer to find in Italy places to fly as at home, into the wind, left to right, right to left, making figure of eight. I do the same, when not on the Alps.

Bon.
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Hello Chris,
Gian Marco noted me about this thread here.

I have not received any e-mail from you since 5th November?

Otherwise I'm still waiting the Cucco dates...

Harri
Hi Harry,
The dates for the international meeting at Monte Cucco 2014 have been fixed.
We' re working on some details and for a better organization.
More coming soon at the end of January 2014 ;)

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Depend on the conditions you are looking for.
If you are looking to fly into the wind, as you do in UK on low altitude slopes, all the Appennins in Italy fit the task.

On the Alps we do not depend on wind.
We fly in thermals.

We often fly with wind direction coming from behind our shoulders. At Margone the main wind is often coming from the "wrong" direction. The "slope" area in reality is a precipice just over the so called valle dei laghi.
From down there a powerful lift comes up.
At Margone you throw down a washing machine and after few seconds you see it going up like a missile.

To land in Margone your airplane comes tail toward the precipice, nose pointing the long large flat airstrip on the top; in the mid of the landing area you enconuter opposite wind, the main land wind, that slow your airplane down.
Margone lift depend on the microclimatic conditions of valle dei laghi creating warm air that goes up the Margone cliff.
No matter if on the top, where you launch, the mainland wind is coming from behind; you fly. The force you have to fight at Margone is the excessive lift.
The number of days per year that are favourable to good flight conditions is enormous. You do not depend on wind direction or its power.


If you go Alpe di Siusi you find one of the most beatiful places on this planet.
Breath taking. In touch with God. Unfortunately delta and parachutes populate the place, it is a tricky place to reach with and withous the models. It is worth an expedition at east once in a lifetime but would not point you there for all your week.
Maybe you could spend there one or two days.

Pordoi pass is where you find the famous euromeeting place. Launching and flying at 2500m put you in a strange situation. One year i remember strong wind,no wind , snow, sun, fog so dense that you could not see your feet, rain, thunders and lightings. And sun again.
All in one day. In July.
At that altitude may be tricky to find stable flight conditions.

Where we, with Ehstikatzi Dimitri Alberto Tarter Harri and many others, choose to put our base to fly the summer, is Folgaria at Willy's hotel. One hour from Verona airport and the town of Verona, Romeo and Juliet, the Arena. One hour to Margone. 30 minutes to Garda Lake.

The hotel is equipped with sauna, billiard, calciobalilla, hangars and a large lab for repairs. You get advise and sustain.

Ehstikatzi already told you the distance from other slopes.
However, we love to stay there, in fact Folgaria is at the base of His Majesty the Holy Monte Cornetto.
We drive with jeep from the hotel to the launching point, or walk to there.

Man, it cannot be described.

Large lift all over the valley, no preferred flight direction, wind not disturbing. There are days that is like to fly a jet.
I remember a year that every day was flyable, after a month of that I was exhausted.
You never have enough.
You may circle thermals that takes you at altitudes that you barely see your aircraft.
Not just god weather and sun is the reason for lift.
There are days with black sky, the airplane is sucked up. We dream for those days, you see your airplane so well, white on a dark backdrop. You are gifted with tremendous energies.
Flying there, in the silence, you hear the sound of your model, the most gentle whispers, the unwanted noises, the high speed whistle. You feel it.

Speed, high wing loading, aerobatics, merry go round, you can do all what you like.
At 200m the Rifugio offers beer, cakes, sandwiches, wines, steaks, cheese, food.

In Folgaria there is also a flying club with 80m airstrip, should you wanna fly engines.

Of course, you may prefer to find in Italy places to fly as at home, into the wind, left to right, right to left, making figure of eight. I do the same, when not on the Alps.

Bon.
Thank you so much for that post - it does remind me of why we wanted to go on this trip in the first place; and that is to experience this special form of flying. "Flying into the wind" I can do most days here where I live..

Do you work in sales? If not, you should !

Chris
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Thank you so much for that post - it does remind me of why we wanted to go on this trip in the first place; and that is to experience this special form of flying. "Flying into the wind" I can do most days here where I live..

Do you work in sales? If not, you should !

Chris
...And did not told you the best:
It's the only place where you can see and maybe touch the latest Ehstikatzi's StingRay design variation : the unique, fully molded StingRay MKII Plus made by Alberto, with a new 3D evolving wing profile optimized for speed and inverted flight. The evolution of the specie. The epitome of precision and robustness in aerobatic slope.
More than three hundreds years of high level modelling expertise concentrated in a gizmo that will make you not believing your eyes.
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That's not such a good idea ... If I see one: I'll want one; and then ?

Ciao

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Depend on the conditions you are looking for.
If you are looking to fly into the wind, as you do in UK on low altitude slopes, all the Appennins in Italy fit the task.

On the Alps we do not depend on wind.
We fly in thermals....
Che bel post, quasi emozionante! Non so come la pensi un madrelingua, io posso solo ribadire che è sempre un piacere leggerti, anche in inglese...
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Of course, you may prefer to find in Italy places to fly as at home, into the wind, left to right, right to left, making figure of eight. I do the same, when not on the Alps.

Bon.
To be honest, the main condition in Appennini is thermodynamic, you can get a thermal and go as high as you can, or just to fly closer to the safety of the windy ridge and see your stunts. For sure the thermals are not so strong, but you don't need to go to fly far.
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To be honest, the main condition in Appennini is thermodynamic, you can get a thermal and go as high as you can, or just to fly closer to the safety of the windy ridge and see your stunts. For sure the thermals are not so strong, but you don't need to go to fly far.
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Che bel post, quasi emozionante! Non so come la pensi un madrelingua, io posso solo ribadire che è sempre un piacere leggerti, anche in inglese...
Grazie Pancho, è un onore. Tutto bene ad Haiti?
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Grazie Pancho, è un onore. Tutto bene ad Haiti?
Si tutto bene. grazie. Si fa il possibile, non è un paese facile ma piano piano...
Adesso comunque sono in Italia, giro parecchio ma torno sempre alla base...

Buon tutto!

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